What in the world was that boy that captured Rue thinking, though!? He lured Katniss out and then wasted time killing the powerless hostage? I'm not gonna get too angry over the news at the end, though; Collins could be copping out or setting us up to be spanked.
What I didn't like is how the legendary commentator Claudius Templesmith appears on the screen and then…we don't hear a word he says! This is happening in present time! I know you can do dialog, Collins, what in the world are you holding it back for!? During the song earlier you might as well have just typed "I sang about life, love, and hope. It was beautiful. I realize now that this murder game is missing something that all others have: a psychopathic Master of Ceremonies! I mean, what would "The Running Man" be without Killian?
Or "Madworld" without the Black Baron? I just saw Rue die to a nobody! I totally agree with this! I'm pretty sure mark has pointed to an occurrence like this previously. I'm interested to see how well the movies make up for the varying in perspective.
Yes, Lossthief! I will do whatever it takes to survive in this cutthroat arena! Let the Hunger Games begin for real! He is in the same boat as Katniss and all the others after all and is only trying to survive. And ultimately he is not actually a bad guy, but the leaders of the Capitol are, because they are the ones who are forcing the kids to kill each other.
It is even mentioned in the text. He is just a kid fighting for his survival just like everyone else in the arena. So your argument kind of falls flat there. We as readers are not allowed to feel good about hating him even if he did commit murder, and I really love that storywise.
He is more of a tragic character than an evil one. It shows that Collins is able to create a world where everything is not simply black and white. Katniss also says "My hatred of the Capitol has not lessened my hatred of my competitors in the least. Especially the Careers. They, at least, can be made to pay for Rue's death. I get that Collins is going for shades of grey, but I don't think she's really achieved it yet. I don't know what to say to that.
It's looks like a inconsistency in Collins writing to me, or maybe Katniss is only unable to hate the dead boy, simply because he looks so innocent in death? Or something……. That's the problem I'm having: I can't hate The Capitol as a whole. We saw earlier that good people live there; some of them are slaves, some are kind like Cinna.
Where are the citizens that delight in this carnage? Who is the guy pressing the flamethrower button? I wanna be angry at these guys but I don't know who they are! The most of the Capitol is a bunch of spoiled, brats who think the Hunger Games is great entertainment and yes some of them are actually good people, which I like.
Just to see what all this is doing to the people of Panem and especially to the children in the arena, and know that nothing will be done to help them, should be enough.
No, but all the avox are still residents of the Capitol meaning that we can't just hate the Capitol as a generalized entity. Hating the Capitol as a whole wasn't really my point, but I can see how you might have interpreted it that way;. Yes, Lossthief, that is what I meant. Let's be allies now, and I will make you a wreath out of flowers.
The kid got it ass backwards! It's not like he didn't know Katniss was coming, so why give her an advantage and a motive to kill him? Ida's right. You're supposed to hate the Capitol. I'd like more backstory about the other tributes, but I've made peace with the fact that the book wasn't written that way. You're supposed to be as disconnected from them as the rest of Panem is. Claudius could jerk them around more, but he can't be a complete asshole without making the Capitol seem like the bad guys to the viewers.
An emcee who tortures the participants doesn't work for this world. Aw man. I wanted to see Katniss dish out another ironic doom to the host, while using his own one-liners against him! What kind of murder game IS this!? This chapter was so sad. I hadn't expected Rue to die because I read the first book in one day so I didn't really think about it. I know with this kind of setting a lot of people will have to die but because I couldn't stop reading I was just reacting to whatever was happening at that point.
It was such a sad scene though. The lullaby made me cry like crazy. And it made it all the worse that I kept matching the lyrics of the song with the tune of the lullaby from Pan's Labyrinth. If that were me I'd be so pissed. I imagine Thresh as kind of Hagrid-like in stature and Rue as a tiny little pixie that he could fit in his pocket and act like a Patronus for her.
That is lovely. I couldn't find Rue at first, but then it's all "There she is! Expecto Patronum! The singing I didn't really mind because I didn't actually read it…um what? Yeah, I have a tendency to skip over songs and poems in books, or most long italicized portions in general.
Meaning I only ever skimmed the Sorting Hat's songs and the only bit I forced myself to sit through and read was the clue for the Second Task because I thought that would probably be important for the plot.
I am a Seer. Hope, despair, anger, I felt it all. Collins never made me feel particularly attached to any of her characters besides Peeta…and Rue a bit before this chappie. I do appreciate that since I understand that they're all going to die, but still no emotional investment. This chapter had to go and change all of that. Now almost all the characters left have names. Oh boy, shit's going to get real, isn't it?
You only skimmed the Sorting Hat's songs? Oh, dear. I spent hours on analyzing the Sorting Hat's sorting criteria and explaining it to my niece because the official translation got it all wrong. I forgot a few things in my last comment! I wanted to mention that this is the first chapter that I've felt the possibility that Katniss might actually become a rebel. This is the first time she has felt like she wanted to oppose the system, instead of barely squeaking by within it.
I think that this is mostly due to a combination of Rue's death and her own increasingly unsteady mind and emotional state. I don't think Rue dying would have hurt her nearly as much if she hadn't got her all tangled with Prim in her mind.
I'm finding Katniss a lot more interesting lately. Also, the way Rue's death scene played out reminded me very strongly of Pan's Labyrinth. Actually sobbed during this, i couldn't see the page and my tears make the page all soggy. Try being a gruff but lovable asshole next time. Then you'll live until the third book when it's time to show everybody how serious the situation is.
Cue the tears. I mean…I get what you're trying to say, but still…what? Is there? Is Kat angry that the guy was carrying food, or because he was only carrying a little? Did he kill the boy from District 10?
Kat's having to humanize her enemies, rather than just seeing them as ruthless monsters. Please keep this up. I guess there's not even a struggle for it? Overall, there were parts of this chapter I really like, but other I really disliked. The singing was just so over the top that it took me out of the story, though I was glad to see Kat figure out that here true enemy was the Capitol, not just the other tributes. I liked the scene with the bread, and I'm glad that Kat started facing the fact that the people she's fighting are humans too.
All too often this would fall to the way side, saying that the careers are "evil" and thus everyone must hate them and is happy they're gone. The twist at the end though? Bleh, it just felt so contrived. I really don't like the way they just dropped it on us without a struggle. Grade: "C". That kind of confused me, too. I think she was irritated that he was only carrying sweet snack-type foods, due to his arrogance about his food stash. I also took her anger to also be about excess in general.
Since she grew up hungry and had to work hard for the food she ate, I cannot imagine she had a whole bunch of snacks at her house. Because of her history she has a different relationship with food and if she had been given an option to pick from the stash she would have picked a protein or bread. Not something like dried fruit, which is tasty, but not really nutritious. No, Glimmer doesn't count since Katniss did not actually, physically kill her. She just sort of let the Tracker Jacker do the work… Whereas this boy, she pretty much shot him.
It registers more as her kill, here, I s'pose. But then again, I haven't killed any one, so I wouldn't know. OMG, this! I was completely absorbed in the chapter — I am a complete and utter sap so was crying my yes out then I was like…wait, what, she's gargling tears? When she cries her tears pour down her face, into her mouth, and collect in a little bottle until her throat releases it and she vomits tears all over Rue's face? It did provide some comic relief, but I doubt that was its intention….
Katniss's anger at the boy carrying only fruit still confuses me, and I've read this book more than once. Is she not thinking clearly? As far as a high-energy snack goes, dried fruit sounds like a pretty good one to me. It's got plenty of nutritional content, it's filling, and it's light weight. There's a reason they put raisins in trail mix. Nice observations. He might be angry that Katniss got the bread from District 11 instead of him. Hide the bread, Katniss!
Thresh the Skull-Cruncher approaches! No, I haven't read past this chapter yet. I don't blame you for thinking my posts are spoilers, though. My ideas are so good and so thoughtful. I didn't like the song. I rarely like songs or poems in books, because they so often come across as cheesy.
Songs are problematic because you can't actually HEAR how they go and that's like half the point or more. Poems… well, just because you can write a book doesn't mean you can write a good poem. That said, I did appreciate this moment between Rue and Katniss.
It was a little awkward, but sweet and meaningful, and all in all I think it fits the story. Also the rule change blew my mind. Also also, I want a shirt or a bumper sticker or something that says "I left all my tears in Chapter 33 of Deathly Hallows.
That change of rules seems like a cop-out to me. I mean, this is my first time reading this series so I don't know how it'll effect the other books, but really? Cop out. Just seems to convenient. But that's the point. They are the unwilling stars in a TV show, and it's the 'show' that puts in the new rule, because the viewers are liking the star crossed lovers story.
I cried too. But I cry at everything. But I was in tears when I read this on saturday night, right before my friends showed up for dinner! I have not looked at the comments yet, and I am sure someone else has posted this video because it is amazing! I have been waiting to post this since Mark announced he was going to read the Hunger Games, so I'm going to post it, and if someone already has…this video is so awesomesauce that it needs to be posted multiple times anyway.
Not my fault that Mark always posts while I'm at school, so by the time I show up all of the fanart and other various things I wanted to post are already taken. Me and my "I'd want to set up a multiple winner rule change even though I know it's not good storytelling.
If I ever do, is it wrong to hope that it becomes a Mark Reads? Rue's death worked for me. Yes, it's somewhat cheesy, but it was also very touching. I think in the movie, this will be even better — they can play Katniss gathering the wildflowers, taking care of Rue's body, etc.
Prediction: Thresh tries to join with Katniss and Peeta, while Foxface works against them. Another prediction: we will never learn Foxface's real name, because Suzanne Collins hates having to make them up. We could see clips of the training, interviews back home, the action in the game, interviews with the sponsors explaining why they chose to sponsor a particular person, interviews with Haymitch and his counterparts explaining strategies, and of course the opening and closing ceremonies.
Interviews with the Gamemakers about why they scored candidates the way they did. And of course, hear the anthem and see the daily recap of the dead. Having not read the sequels, obviously I don't know if this could work, but I don't see any reason it couldn't. Thing is, I suck at finding out people's names and I don't even have the excuse that Katniss has of trying to distance herself from the others.
It's the risk of the pov that Collins has taken, we don't always know the names of the people that surround us. This chapter was very "meh" for me. The flowers were a nice touch, but the singing and the "Prim…oops, I meant Rue" thing felt really forced and made it hard for me to take this chapter seriously. The District 11 bread would have made more emotional impact if there'd been any earlier indication that ordinary people from the districts can be sponsors.
The way it's been set up, there was no reason to think of the sponsors as anything more than cold, unfathomable Deus ex Machinas who just want to win their bets when the Games are over. As such, I kinda assumed that the District 11 bread gift was set up by Haymitch, hoping to rake in Rue's former sponsors by painting Katniss as the sentimental, sympathetic tribute. Claudius Templesmith's announcement made me think that perhaps Peeta has been just off-screen, helping Katniss without her knowing, rather like Snape did for Harry.
But while Peeta is good at camouflaging himself, I doubt he'd be better than Rue at moving stealthily, and Katniss was able to spot Rue pretty easily. As such, I can't really see a 'Peeta's been secretly helping Katniss all along' plot twist coming to fruition without it seeming cheap. I was surprised at how moving parts of this chapter were although I did think the singing was a little…much , but your comment about Katniss having the emotional range of a teaspoon is spot on, and this is the chapter when I finally understood what bothered me so much about her.
I'm not going to try to articulate exactly what it is, because I'm not sure I really can, but I think her behavior in this chapter exemplifies it. When Rue dies, Katniss mourns her. When she mourns for Rue, however, she continues to compare Rue to Prim. I liked that comparison as a reason for Katniss and Rue to become friends, but I hated that it continued to be so important after Rue was established as an individual with her own family, thoughts, and talents, especially after her death.
I thought Rue was far more interesting than Prim ever was, and considering that the purpose of Rue's character seemed to be to show that the dying tributes were individuals, not just numbers or placeholders, I was really disappointed that Katniss still couldn't see her and mourn her as more than a placeholder for her sister when Rue was wonderful in her own right.
It's one thing to look at a newspaper article about a twelve-year-old dying and say, "That could be my sister. I don't know this girl, but I feel sad because I can imagine the loss this girl's loved ones must feel.
It's another thing for Katniss to look at her friend , lying dead in front of her, and say, "That could be my sister.
I feel sad because she reminds me of my sister, even though I actually knew Rue and she is clearly NOT my sister. I am going to compare her to my sister even though I knew her and therefore shouldn't need a reference point from my own life in order to comprehend this loss, because apparently their superficial similarities are the only reason I had any compassion for my friend Rue, who happened to be the same age as my sister.
That's harsh, but Katniss's unwillingness to view others as anything more complex than what they symbolize in her mind Peeta as the boy with the bread, Haymitch as the possible key to her survival, Rue as the twelve-year-old Tribute who reminds her of Prim really irks me, and I think Rue—not what she represents, but Rue as her own person—deserved a lot more respect than I felt she was shown here.
Oddly enough, it was recognizing why I was angry at Katniss that finally allowed me to really enjoy the rest of the book. I don't know. There's no people acting out the scenes, but it is well done, even if the autotune is rather disctracting. But wasn't Kat freaking out about the hovercraft when she was trying to get the bow and arrows off of Glimmer?
She was also hallucinating and therefore not completely lucid, plus no one had been near enough for a while, so the hovercraft might have already shown up. I've been trying to figure out why this rule is in place— is it ever distinctly mentioned? I have mental images of past tributes trying to escape by clinging to the bodies of their competitors and that's just…ick. They haven't addressed why that is, but that seems like a pretty good reason.
But in general it just prevents any kind of interferences, and also allows tributes a way of picking stuff off their dead opponents without worrying about the Capitol sneaking up on them and taking the bodies away too fast. Anyways, when I read this I thought, this is way too convenient. It's either a trap, or terrible writing on Collins' part. Ugh, Cato and his girl are also contenders for the double-win… I feel like that'll make their alliance stronger because they know that eventually they won't have to turn on one another.
On the subject of the "Prim—I mean Rue" thing, I think it's because Katniss was having a flashback to singing for a very ill Prim, and she was mixing up the memory with the present. I think you misinterpreted the gift from District I don't think the bread was ever meant for Rue— she never really demonstrated a need for food, especially once she teamed up with Katniss, right?
Sadness forever. Also, I forgot that Katniss and Rue only spent one night together. It's really a testament to how terrible the games are that such a short amount of time can make people have such a strong bond.
At first, I disliked the new rule of teams, but then I remembered that there is another district with 2 people which evens out the play and that the game makers can't really do anything else since making Katniss kill Peeta or vice versa would really be bad on the watchers who wouldn't like that much. The first thought that passed through my mind when I read the new rules is that Peeta would die nonetheless.
And now that I read the title "The victor", I feel like there will only be one victor! I'm also assuming that "the" Victor isn't a fancy name for some dude called Victor, which would be really funny. Oh man, Hobbes, that would be hilarious. At long last we meet the game master, Victor!
Do not mess with 'The Victor! I admit I cried like a baby at Rue's death. I was holding up well at first and just kept telling myself, "I'm not going to cry, I'm not going to cry.
Then I started crying a bit during the song because I found it sweet and I am a complete sap. That's when I lost it. Can you even imagine what that would be like, her younger siblings having to watch their big sister die like that? Her parents? And being ashamed to be caucasian is what sources of this kind of selective outrage want, in reality the most racism is directed at whites because it's become socially acceptable.
So don't be an idiot by being ashamed of anything. I think Amandla Stenberg is the best person to play Rue. Bigoted people like that apparently didn't notice that in the book, Suzanne Collins describes Rue and Thresh as African-American.
And people also were hating on Lenny Kravitz as Cinna. What happened to tolerance? They must have read the books really bad if they don't think Amandla Stenberg is the best person to play Rue!!! What happened to tolerence? That goes both ways, those who demand tolerence the loudest are usually the most intolerant in the room. You're looking at one small piece of the picture, but I saw another.
One where there was an entire site dedicated to crapping on the movie because they wanted Katniss to be darker complected. This selective outrage is something that happens way too frequently.
And as if typical white self loathing eunuchs like that, who would even involve themself in such a ridiculous site, would EVER challenge a nonwhite, they're so conditioned and brainwashed to believe the only racism that exists or has ever existed was against nonwhites which is laughable on it's face. I'm of Irish descent, and the English thought of us as an "inferior race.
We won't even talk about the many neighborhoods in America you can't walk in if your white because if you do you can expect a beating or worse. You've been swept up in this uniquely American and Western European phenoomenon of racism hysteria. You need deprogramming. In the end, anyone upset over the race of ANY of the characters is miserable and immersed in negativity The right actresses and actors got the job. Be happy, not a hysteric. It's done nothing but inflame racial tensions even more and one day you may regret it.
WE ALL may regret it. I mean, my brother remarked that "most of the dude tributes were Aisian or black. I think half the time people don't KNOW theire being racist. I think there's a racism hysteria in this country that's remenicent of a witch hunt, and you probably shouldn't feed into it because it's worse than racism itself.
All this hysteria has done is create more racism. So unfair that shows people can't read it discribes her right in the book! I've watched the film 7 times Perfect example of racism hysteria at it's worst. More selective outrage. Again, there's a whole site dedicated to crapping on the movie because Katniss wasn't dark enough.
Here's how you should handle it, instead of emoting ridiculously in all caps There's no need to shake your fist at them because they're all immersing themselves in negativity. Katniss and Peeta , for the first time in Hunger Games history, have been given perfect scores. Her husband died in a coal mining accident five years before the events of The Hunger Games book. She also has two grandchildren, an elder girl and younger boy, from Katniss and Peeta. Primrose died in Mockingjay, leaving Mrs.
Everdeen unable to go back to District 12 due to the pain of her death. Beetee joined the district's technology division, working on the military equipment and designing a bomb that President Coin later used to bomb the Capitol children and medics, killing Prim. Wiress is the District 3 female in the 75th Hunger Games.
Katniss said that she miscarried due to an electric shock in the arena. However, during the 15 years after the events of Mockingjay, Katniss became pregnant legitimately. She kills Glimmer and the District 4 girl by dropping a tracker jacker nest above them, but glimmer died first.
Then she killed Marvel after he killed Rue. Was everyone aware of the ruse of the 75th Hunger Games but Katniss? Not only was Prim the reason why Katniss volunteered for the Hunger Games but most importantly Prim died due to Gale's war strategy that Coin used to manipulate Katniss. The confusion of the end of the war manipulated the Capitol people to think that Snow ordered it.
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